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	<title>Comments on: Final Cut Pro &#8211; Baby Steps Into The Future</title>
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		<title>By: Black under eyes</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1939</link>
		<dc:creator>Black under eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyvm for the useful post! I wouldn&#039;t have found this otherwise!</description>
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		<title>By: Wellington Road Pictures&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thanks, Norman!</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellington Road Pictures&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thanks, Norman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was thinking this, and was going to write about it but I didn&#8217;t have the depth of experience to make the point as clear as Norman does. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Cohen</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the falling wages are creating a downdraft on your mind. You can&#039;t stand in the way of a train, but then again, if we&#039;d said that back in the early days of unionism we&#039;d still be working in the coal mines for a dollar a day -- which is what you get in the third world now. I will continue to hope that working remotely just ain&#039;t as good as being in the same room. We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the falling wages are creating a downdraft on your mind. You can&#8217;t stand in the way of a train, but then again, if we&#8217;d said that back in the early days of unionism we&#8217;d still be working in the coal mines for a dollar a day &#8212; which is what you get in the third world now. I will continue to hope that working remotely just ain&#8217;t as good as being in the same room. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Well, I don&#039;t disagree with that.  But the reality is that we just cannot hold back a tidal wave by simply holding up a small bucket (hmmm, I missed something with that metaphor, didn&#039;t I?).  The days of our high wages are going away.  In television, for instance, the economics are simply not there to support both the size and the cost of a crew in the way it used to. Syndication is &lt;strong&gt;GONE&lt;/strong&gt;.  24 episode orders are &lt;strong&gt;GONE&lt;/strong&gt;. High advertising rates are &lt;strong&gt;GONE&lt;/strong&gt;. As a result, the days of 3-5 million dollar pattern budgets are... you guessed it... &lt;strong&gt;GONE&lt;/strong&gt;.

Unfortunately, that means that our lives as editors are changing Big Time. We need to compete on a much more basic level than we ever have.  There will absolutely be producers who are completely bottom line driven (I think we&#039;ve both worked for people like that) and they will go where the cost of living is less, even if it means less quality control. But there will also be producers who hire us because we bring more to the project than someone who charges 10% of our rate. That having been said, I&#039;ve worked with filmmakers from Vietnam and the Middle East who are awesomely talented. Lower dollars doesn&#039;t necessarily mean less talented. That is going to affect what we can charge and, therefore, how we work. (For instance, I can see editors working on multiple projects at one time for one rate, and soloing for a different rate.)

So, you&#039;re right, the receding tide is also going to produce some rocky waters for those of us who are used to floating around in expensive boats. But I think we&#039;re all better off when we look around for all kinds of boats to pilot, rather than sticking with our old ones.

And that, my friend, is a metaphor way to broken to make any sense any more.  So, I&#039;d better move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t disagree with that.  But the reality is that we just cannot hold back a tidal wave by simply holding up a small bucket (hmmm, I missed something with that metaphor, didn&#8217;t I?).  The days of our high wages are going away.  In television, for instance, the economics are simply not there to support both the size and the cost of a crew in the way it used to. Syndication is <strong>GONE</strong>.  24 episode orders are <strong>GONE</strong>. High advertising rates are <strong>GONE</strong>. As a result, the days of 3-5 million dollar pattern budgets are&#8230; you guessed it&#8230; <strong>GONE</strong>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that means that our lives as editors are changing Big Time. We need to compete on a much more basic level than we ever have.  There will absolutely be producers who are completely bottom line driven (I think we&#8217;ve both worked for people like that) and they will go where the cost of living is less, even if it means less quality control. But there will also be producers who hire us because we bring more to the project than someone who charges 10% of our rate. That having been said, I&#8217;ve worked with filmmakers from Vietnam and the Middle East who are awesomely talented. Lower dollars doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean less talented. That is going to affect what we can charge and, therefore, how we work. (For instance, I can see editors working on multiple projects at one time for one rate, and soloing for a different rate.)</p>
<p>So, you&#8217;re right, the receding tide is also going to produce some rocky waters for those of us who are used to floating around in expensive boats. But I think we&#8217;re all better off when we look around for all kinds of boats to pilot, rather than sticking with our old ones.</p>
<p>And that, my friend, is a metaphor way to broken to make any sense any more.  So, I&#8217;d better move on.</p>
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		<title>By: D Halsall</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>D Halsall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Europe we can get funding from the government for film-projects if we collaborate with people in other EU countries. This has made it so much easier now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Europe we can get funding from the government for film-projects if we collaborate with people in other EU countries. This has made it so much easier now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cohen</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the remote collaboration stuff, too. But we should all understand that it comes with a very big gotcha. Editors in the third world earn maybe $400 a week. No benefits, nada. I think the day just got a lot closer when we&#039;ll have to compete with that. We like to believe that quality wins, that the best editor will get the job. But competing with Mexico or Korea or India or China inevitably brings wages down at home. A receding tide lowers all boats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the remote collaboration stuff, too. But we should all understand that it comes with a very big gotcha. Editors in the third world earn maybe $400 a week. No benefits, nada. I think the day just got a lot closer when we&#8217;ll have to compete with that. We like to believe that quality wins, that the best editor will get the job. But competing with Mexico or Korea or India or China inevitably brings wages down at home. A receding tide lowers all boats.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, now &lt;strong&gt;THAT&#039;S&lt;/strong&gt; a girlfriend! Let me know how the upgrade works for you.  Not sure when I&#039;ll get mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, now <strong>THAT&#8217;S</strong> a girlfriend! Let me know how the upgrade works for you.  Not sure when I&#8217;ll get mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Imbs</title>
		<link>http://normanhollyn.com/2009/07/23/final-cut-pro-baby-steps-into-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Imbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for iChat Theatre, I often collaborate during an edit, and it&#039;s a pain in the butt to export low res copy&#039;s throughout the process.  I&#039;m looking forward to upgrading to FCS3.  My GF works at Apple, that means half off the 299$ price, I&#039;m lucky.</description>
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